
The hundred people who attended our talk on informal learning at ASTD TechKnowledge yesterday gave us mixed reviews:
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Too bad this bad experience is how I ended this great conference. Your session was too scattered for me.
“Conversations are the stem cells of innovation” is brilliant. I will use (and properly attribute) this quote for many years to come.
- Even if I could use this in my work, my managers are so entrenched in traditional forms of training that this would really put them off. I would like to know what you guys do to sell this to stodgy organizations. Without practical examples of where and how this works I would respectfully have to say that you guys are full of bologna…or baloney.
Great food for thought.
Rather elementary in content. Stats were rather dated.
They kept walking in front of the projector so the PowerPoint wasn’t as effective. They didn’t seem to have the presentation down. Too informal for me. I like the irony.
I felt like I was eavesdropping on a conversation already underway.
I’m not sure about the use in my job…. It is an interesting thought and needs to be addressed.
Lots of good stuff but too ambitious for the time allowed.
Very cool stuff – I will be in contact.
I now have a new flag to carry. Bravo! Every speaker here has talked about changing the way we teach but no one could provide a plan. I now have the blueprint. Thank you.
Smile sheets invariably reflect more the innate mindset of the evaluator than the effectiveness of the learning experience. (A real evaluation would check what behavior had changed a month or two after the fact, not a reaction a minute after the conclusion.)
People tell us we are either really, really good or irredeemably god-awful. As with abortion, everyone has a strongly-held opinion. Interpretations from other speakers about the split opinion on informal learning suggests that learning professionals fall into two camps.
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1. People who think our position is flaky feel the status quo is working fine and see no reason to change. When we advocate conversation or web technology or social networking, they question whether informal learning works at all and whether their management will buy it. Some tell me that this informal stuff sounds great, and they would like to offer a course in it. (Don’t!) When we model informal approaches, many think we are scattered and don’t know any better.
2. People who support our position agree that the world is speeding up, and traditional training and design no longer map to reality. They want to start re-inventing what they do as soon as they get home. They have fire in the belly and don’t mind shaking things up to bring on change.
You can’t please all of the people all of the time.
Here are the PowerPoint slides from our talk.
Here is an mp3 sound file of the entire presentation. Warning: This is ninety minutes long.



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[...] Slides, sound recording, and evaluations from Harold, Judy, and Jay’s presentation at TechKnowledge. [...]
Hi Jay,
Enjoyed your lecture very much.
1. The green Volkswagen- I’ll tell you the secret- probably people heard you on thix issue before ( as I have), so they know they have to pay attention to the green Beetle. This is a risk you take when lecturing to informal learners…we learn what and when we want…
2. I heard your lecture, while going through the slide show. It’d be great if you could put some kind of sign in the lecture- know go to slide number X.This is not to say just blendidng the 2…
Yours,
Meir
[...] I really enjoyed presenting at TK2007 this week, even though our session was moved to a new venue and it was at the end of the day. Being that the topic was informal learning, the session was - informal. The next day I reviewed the participant evaluations with Jay, who has already noted several of the comments. Needless to say, there was a wide spectrum of opinions. Perhaps the best comment was, “They didn’t have the presentation down - too informal for me. I like the irony.” [...]
I attended the presentation at TK2007, but I also heard Jay at Learning 2006 and have read the book. With me, you were preaching to the converted. However, I thought the session was excellent. But, I do believe the informal revolution is going to take a while to permeate the corporate culture so many folks are wary and don’t quite yet understand the relevance and that they need to capitalize on already existing learning that is happening everyday. I spent a good deal of time at the conference explaining to people what Web 2.0 is. Corporations just move slower than the rest of the world …
BTW, I was too embarassed to be the only one to raise my hand, but I attempt to maintain 5 blogs. As I’m still in Las Vegas on vacation, I’m experiencing blog guilt!
It was a great presentation - thank you!
Hello, Jay:
As a member of the “support our position” camp, I confess the following comment is from my session evaluation form:
“’Conversations are the stem cells of innovation’ is brilliant. I will use (and properly attribute) this quote for many years to come.”
My only regret about the session is that I had to leave early… to prepare for the beer and cheese pairing seminar, of course.
I look forward to devouring your new book beginning this week.
Jim
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